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Comment from: Andy Mills [Visitor]
Mario: Good day. As I am concerned about my family in Sanya I was checking the internet for the weather and stumbled on to your web-site. Well you asked for comment? I do beleive Sanya will become much more bigger both in property and tourism. Because as you say Sanya is China's only Tropical Paridise. I have chosen to live with my family in Sanya for afew reasons; the people(you can usually tell the genuanly good people whether it's in the markets or excersising along the beach) and the weather. So I say bring on the real estate boom just find me a few good contractors as I'm starting the interiors on 2 condos and by the time they are finished I intend to do more.I arrive back to my adopted homeon Saturday night. I hope to be doiung some Tai Chi on the beach Sunday morning with my family and friends Cheers Andy (from
Canada] P.S. We have met at Fat Daddy' one fine Sany' afternoon Say hello to Sheldon(thank for the only English Library in town.
09/28/09 @ 20:42
Comment from: admin [Member] Email
Hello Andy, thanks for writing! Your thoughts are genuinely appreciated and we hope you continue to enjoy all that Sanya has to offer for many years. Cheers, M
09/29/09 @ 14:48
Comment from: Sam C [Visitor] Email
Easy to misunderstand Sanya as a real estate play, it is more of a consumer play and this market will run and run. people want a flat in Sanya because of the status that gives them (same reason they buy LV handbags and other rubbish). I have two flats in Sanya bought several years ago, bought because they are cheap, but would not buy another one at today's prices because I could not afford one. Prices will continue to rise, they will not come down buy much, if at all any time soon because China is getting richer. It is easy to say they have gone up by 300% in 4 years therefore this must be a bubble but that ignores the facts and misunderstands the fundamentals of why people are buying; this one is just getting started. There is nowhere else for 1.4 billion people to go to the seaside for holiday without having to get a visa and eat 'nasty' unfamiliar foreign food. Much north of Sanya is too cold at Chinese New Year, the busiest holiday season.
I could go on, but China's real estate markets have been making fools out of analysts for 10 years already. China gets richer = property prices go up, can't put it more simpler than that.
09/29/09 @ 20:01
Comment from: admin [Member] Email
Well said Sam, nice to hear from you! I recall that in the early 1960's a typical suburban home in the United States sold for $20-$30,000, and worth $150,000 in today's dollars.

Indeed, Sanya is the only true choice for the newly rich Chinese to own that warm weather tropical second home...I'll still differ with the view that this rise is just getting started...its getting worn...we shall see!!

Cheers, M
09/30/09 @ 17:26
Comment from: Martin Clark [Visitor]
Continuing in the same vein, consider that adding a floor to a condo (unfinished) costs around 800rmb/psqm (yes, eighthundred). This is partly because both steel and cement prices are roughly half what they were 2 years ago, due to the recession of course.
The widening gap between intrinsic value and market price is indeed cause for wonder!
A couple of years ago I objected (to me) that the cost of the villas at Times Coast put them in the world league. The location is great, but an international buyer could probably do much better in terms of value for money. I suppose the point is that rich Chinese can't...
10/05/09 @ 08:07
Comment from: admin [Member] Email
Hi Martin,

There are lots of important topics in this world very few people are talking about. Very high inflation in China is one of them. The cost per square meter to decorate a new apartment has just about doubled in the past three years. Don't get me started on the cost of a liter of extra virgin olive oil! Granted, interior dcorating costs in China are still far lower than those found in the west. Cheers, M
10/05/09 @ 11:52
Comment from: Alexis Jameson [Visitor] · http://RealEstateCrusher.com
Great tips and several things I’ d not thought about.
Thank you for posting about this…
10/09/09 @ 18:36
Comment from: Sam [Visitor]
Interior decorating costs are higher in Sanya than in Shanghai or other major cities. I daresay that construction costs are higher too.

Remember that we are rarely comparing apples with apples in real estate. Today's projects are generally far higher quality than those built in Sanya 5 years ago. At least, they are better marketed, the buyers have more money and by now are used to getting the best available of pretty much everything.

Sanya is not an international market, it is a rich Chinese market. As long as rich Chinese are doing well it is fair to say that this market will do well. We may not like it, we may not agree with it but that has nothing to do with it as long as the rich Chinese do. Where else can they get this kind of place, nowhere in China. Japan they can't travel independently, Malaysia, maybe, Thailand they cannot own without a Thai national. Other markets are all too far away or too difficult (language, food etc). I say this one will run and run.
10/13/09 @ 10:53
Comment from: admin [Member] Email
Sam nailed the point folks! "Sanya is NOT an international market, it is a rich Chinese market." Thanks much Sam for recognizing this key point and your other comments here. Meanwhile, here's a bit of an update. Out on Sanya Bay where the road has an "S" bend, there's a large new complex almost finished called "Blue Poem". We checked it out a year ago and again a couple of days ago. It is a very nice oceanfront complex. Current average pricing was 13,000rmb psqm. Even the 25th floor unit they had available was between 15-16,000 psqm. I'm happy to report I found this the case because I believe it represents a more realistic picture with those price points about 15% higher than one year ago, leaving me once again wondering WHO is buying WHAT at double the prices and thinks its a good deal?

By the way, the official contest is on:

The Mario "this market is hitting a wall" vs. Sam's "this market will run and run" contest is on baby!!!!!

Cheers, M
10/14/09 @ 13:27
Comment from: Sam Crispin [Visitor] Email · http://www.cpcproperty.com
The 'Blues' of Sanya, Blue Bay, Blue Poem etc are condos, they are completed unfinished and the buyer has to fit them out themselves - kitchens, bathrooms, flooring, wiring the lot. This is a big job for anyone let alone doing it remotely from Shanghai or Beijing.

Properties selling at twice the price are serviced apartments, fitted out to meet the exacting standards of China's newly rich and plumped up, hyped up and primed to charge a premium on the promise of everything the discerning buyer could wish for. The same people that pay Rmb3 to 5,000 for a sea view room in Yalong Bay's disappointing hotels will pay Rmb3 to 5 million for a place they can call home in China's only real year round tropical resort.

Where else do you escape to for warmth in the middle of a Liaoning or Heilongjiang winter? where else do you send your elderly parents for 3 to 4 months every winter? There are no quality serviced retirement homes in China, this is the next best thing and one way to show you care.

Bizarrely to many westerners, the higher the entry price, the longer the queue. Chinese buyers pay these prices because they can, they want to retire to Sanya themselves one day, they can get one up on the neighbours...
11/08/09 @ 19:05

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